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Intel celeron d 340 vs Pentium 4 2.66ghz

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Hello everyone i was wondering if i would gain noticeable speed if changed from a celeron d 2.93ghz to a pentium 4 2.66ghz not ht or anything. Thanks
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I'm almost positive that the pentium is stronger than the celeron D. I've owned both but, no actual benchmarks to prove it. But, I do remember being a decent amount faster with the p4 2.6 over the celeron 2.66. So even if you have a faster celeron D then the difference shouldn't overtake the p4 still.
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ubrindis wrote:Hello everyone i was wondering if i would gain noticeable speed if changed from a celeron d 2.93ghz to a pentium 4 2.66ghz not ht or anything. Thanks

There would be no difference!
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Re: Intel celeron d 340 vs Pentium 4 2.66ghz

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ur celeron is hight clock speed and has sse3 support but p4 2.66 i assuming is northwood, it does not have sse3 only thing is does is 256k extra cache, still stick with ur Celeron D 340
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thanks everyone. If not that, what would be an ok upgrade thats not too expensive. My mobo supports northwood cores only and 533fsb up to 3.06ghz and also ht can be used. socket 478
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I'm afraid that your current hardware has been superseded by newer sockets and processors, which makes finding anything worth upgrading to a real problem.

Looking at it, it's not going to be even worth changing the CPU to a P4 as you are pretty much at the speed limit of your board with the 2.93 Celeron, and you won't feel that much of an increase even with the added cache.

You are looking at $130 to get the cheapest set of components to replace your motherboard/ram/cpu (just did a quick check on newegg). And they would actually be faster than your current setup(!). This presumes that your hard drive, PSU, monitor, and case will be able to be reused though. You'd have to go with integrated graphics at this point, so if you are into gaming, anything new will be a problem to play.

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well i had a celeron d 452 3.20 gig chip and i just replaced it with a p4 631 pentium w/ht at 3.0 ghz would there be a performance increase there???? not to mention i had paided 98 bucks usd for it and only recieved 20 usd trade in witch meant i had paided about 84 bucks total and ive seen the same chip online for only 68 bucks usd figure that out and it had free ground shipping
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roper187b wrote:well i had a celeron d 452 3.20 gig chip and i just replaced it with a p4 631 pentium w/ht at 3.0 ghz would there be a performance increase there???? not to mention i had paided 98 bucks usd for it and only recieved 20 usd trade in witch meant i had paided about 84 bucks total and ive seen the same chip online for only 68 bucks usd figure that out and it had free ground shipping
Considering that I got a Celeron 430 1.8GHz (Conroe-L)/ECS 945GCT-M combo from Fry's for $50+tax, I'd say that's too darned much. Add another $45 for a pair of 1GB DDR2 RAM (2GB total) and upgrade cost is under $100 assuming all the other parts are re-usable. I'm betting the Celeron 430's faster than the P4, too. Motherboard supports up to Q6600 and 4GB memory. No support for 45nm procs and no overclocking whatsoever, but hey, mobo was basically free so I can't complain.

Hmm, are you sure it's not a Celeron D 352? Also, aren't those procs supposedly LGA775 already? If your motherboard supports it, Celeron Dual-Core and/or Pentium Dual-Core processors would be better options on the cheap.

I'm still confused about your math, though. Last I checked, 98-20=78...
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yes i ment i have a celeron 352 d and it was in the 775 lga package i just upgraded to a pentium 4 with ht 3.0 gig which is faster or did i waste my money u might have gotten a board for 100 bucks but its not a p4 631 with ht nore is it a d nore is the mem any faster then 150 mhz prolly pc 2100 4 gigs of that would be nice but its alot slower then both of my items.
not to mention i sold a p4 celeron 478 socket with 2 gigs of mem and 60 gigs with xp pro and a geforce 5200 and soundblaster hd with keyboard n mouse for 100 bucks that my freind is what u call a deal
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What motherboard do you have roper? Depending on if it supports core2 based CPUs depends on whether buying your p4 631 was a waste or not. While you will have seen a performance improvement from your P4, going to a Celeron 430 would have given you more performance.

Currently, even though the conroe based core 2 duo, pentium dual core and celeron CPUs are clocked much lower than P4 chips, they are much faster than the P4 chips. This is due to Intel changing the workings of the CPU to do more things per Mhz tick of the CPU clock than the P4 did.

hnzw_rui's suggestions included CPU, mobo and RAM for the $100.

What are you saying about PC2100 ram, i couldnt understand if you meant that the RAM that in hnzw's suggestion would probably be PC2100 or something else. If it was the former, then it isnt, it'd be something like PC2-5300 (667Mhz) at least.

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Re: Intel celeron d 340 vs Pentium 4 2.66ghz

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celerons are just p4s that have bad yeilds. i would go with the celeron if you dont plan to overclock, but if you want to overclock go with the p4
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well how do i over clock a p4 with an intel d101ggc mainboard ??? also what would be the most overclocked setting i could try just on using my existing fan/thermal chassis setup?? btw my chip aint a prescott or a northwood its a cedarmill p4 3.0 65nm with 2 threads and i been told my board can take any chip in the lga 775 package. So i was told bye the computer place the pentium i was buying is alot faster but it seems like my celeron d had my windows poping up faster and i even stated that i have a 3.20 celeron d is this pentium 4 chip faster and the guy said yes even though its only a 3.0. i know they make a dual core in the 775 lga witch ive herd is much faster but all i was trying to do was upgrade from my 352 celeron d to a faster chip i though a pentium chip was better so i bought it but really i prolly should have bought a pentium d ??? then why was the place selling my celeron for 66 usd and the chip i just bought for 99 if the pentium was eqaul or lesser in speed shouldent it have been lower price??? On the overclocking wat would i need to do move a jumper??? is it done in the bios??? The current core vid is 1.324v. btw im only asking so many posts because i thought the original celeron chip that was in it was slow and couldent multitask like a real pentium because ive always herd the genuine pentuim chips were faster and made with stronger parts and had better cooling but idk anyways im sure someone will say i could have bought a different chip for 99 bucks that would have been faster then the p4. My processor temp shouldent exceed 38c book says my celeron was running hot at one point was always hitting 38c with fan racing up then down during online flash pages now im running at almost steady 34c with this new chip and power supply with a turbo fan. since my celerons max temp meaning tha hottest it should get is 38 does that mean i gotta atleast keep this new processor at 37c or below to be safe from overheat???
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I also need an advice if I would get more power replacing mine old CP...
I have:
Celeron 340 Prescott 2.92GHz, Bus 133MHz on the socket 478 (Mainboard: VIA P4M800CE)
Considering:
Pentium 4 3.0GHz w/1MB cache 800mhz, L2 Cache Size:1 MB - I am guessing that it is a Prescott (for $90 at EWorldSale.com + $23 shipment to Canada)

I need more power, because when I am watching some 720p movies from HD(not mentioning 1080p) sometimes picture froze or would start to jump, so watching is impossible, or picture would not follow the voice....
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For 90 bucks you can get MUCH more than a p4 or celeron D. Get an amd 5000 BE for under 90
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Don't forget to factor in the new motherboard they would have to buy. #-o

Unless you have a trick that allows a socket AM2 chip to fit into a socket 478 motherboard. :mrgreen:

I'm not sure how much faster that would be as I haven't had single core cpu's in quite a while, but if you do decide to upgrade, the Intel c2d is the way to go. 8)
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even get a cheapo brisbane core for like 45 bucks. Then a cheap biostar board for under 35 shipped and thats still under 90 and AT LEAST 50% stronger than the p4. But, I agree Core2 if you plan to actually want to make it last for a while
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wadamus wrote:I also need an advice if I would get more power replacing mine old CP...
I have:
Celeron 340 Prescott 2.92GHz, Bus 133MHz on the socket 478 (Mainboard: VIA P4M800CE)
Considering:
Pentium 4 3.0GHz w/1MB cache 800mhz, L2 Cache Size:1 MB - I am guessing that it is a Prescott (for $90 at EWorldSale.com + $23 shipment to Canada)

I need more power, because when I am watching some 720p movies from HD(not mentioning 1080p) sometimes picture froze or would start to jump, so watching is impossible, or picture would not follow the voice....
That P4 wouldn't be much of an upgrade. Get a cheap AMD dualie and <$50 mobo for the price. Probably won't last you all that long, either, but it's enough for your current needs.
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Thanks for input guys! It looks like i finally would have to catch up with the 21st century and get a dual core ;)
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If I will replace my Celeron D, besides the CPU and motherboard I would have to replace my AGP graphic card so the total sums up... Can you recommend some dual core CPU for the socket 478? with the price about $120-150?
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If you're gonna go to the extent of upgrading, and spending that much money, why not just upgrade to socket 775?
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