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I've a Pentium D 960 processor and all monitoring prog's says that everything is perfect.
(idle 30 degrees and stressed 60 degrees)
But with 3Dmark06 and in the games he don't work so good.
My 3Dmark06 score is 3000 and my cpu is 600 but other sites says it must be 1700 cpu score
because he's slow the videocard wil be slow either.
I v'e new drivers and everything is on the rightplace.
My system is:
Motherboard - Asus P5V-X SE
Ram - Corsair Valueselect 2x 1 GB dual channel 667mhz
Video - Asus Radeon HD3650 @ 900/1000
Processor - Pentium D960 3,6Ghz
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 250gb 16mb cache
Power - Antec neohe 430
and my operating system is Windows XP Home

tests in 3Dmark are done with everything default, no aa or something
Last disk format was 3 weeks ago and 2 days ago i did a defragmentation

nearly my hole pc is new only the processor not i've already both a new cooling paste that one from artic silver

but my 3Dmark score is still low what can it be?

You've got the dependency the wrong way round. Because the video card is low, the CPU score will be low too.

Dan

by http://gph.benchmark.pl/ my video card should be able to reach 5800 points+ in 3dmark06, so its obviously the processor that slows my card. also by the other site i mentioned, the proc should be able to get 1700+ in cpu score.

I apologise, you are definitely being held back somewhere (more than I originally thought).

Can you download and run cpuz and do something processor intensive please, and report if the CPU does ramp up to its full 3.6Ghz. If you can't think of anything processor intensive, opening windows calculator and telling it to do 1000000n! (in scientific mode) will give it something to work at for a long time.

If you have set the system profile to something like "maximum power savings" the CPU might be stuck running at it's slowest state.
If you know you have done this, then changing it to portable/laptop will allow the CPU to adjust it's clock dynamically depending on how much load it has.

Dan

Well, I let the processor do SuperPi 1mb and 100000! in calculator at the same time, and cpu-z told he was using 3600.x (x was jumping between 2-3). But the Windows task menager told the the cpu usage was only 50-60%, with two calculators doing 1000000! it said 100%. I don't know if my comp has power saving things, it's a stationary pc.

Well it doesn't matter if it does, as under full load it was jumping up to the proper 3.6Ghz it should be at.

Can you download and run GPUz please and upload a screenshot (you can use the attachment option on the forums if you need somewhere to upload the picture to). I just want to check out a couple of things on your graphics card.

The only other thing I can think of after this is that the drivers are playing up, you should try a different version after I have seen the GPUz shot.

Dan

do you think the proc can be slowed by the card?

ps. I really appreciate your tryings ;)

I can't see anything wrong with the settings there. Everything looks as it should.

Do you still get poor performance when the card is clocked at stock? Sometimes when you overclock a card too far it's performance can degrade as it is not quite stable any more.

You CPU score will be lower with a 3650 than it would say a 3870, but, looking on the futuremark orb database, there are processors that are slower than yours getting higher score than you have (with the 3650).

What breakdown did you see in the 3DMark results, i.e. SM3 etc.

Do you think your performance is lacking in other games too? or just 3DMark?

Dan

With defaults it's even worse :/. Breakdown? the framerates were pretty ok, around 20fps, in the first benchmark when you saw the soldierrs standing in flashing light it was like 9 fps and with the firefly's it was 10-15. CPU had 0 fps the whole time.

Damn, what could be the reason :/

Sorry I meant all of the individual scores, like the SM3 result, CPU result etc

The only other thing I can suggest is completely removing the drivers and installing them again.

boot into safe mode, uninstall the drivers, reboot back to safe mode, then run Driver cleaner pro (set it to get rid of all the ATI things on the list). Reboot to regular windows and install the card again (try a different driver version, or if you have the full catalyst suite now, then just do the display driver next time).

Dan

Score rank looks like this:
(best)1. SM3 (almost 3k)
2. SM2 (around 1.5k)
3. CPU.. (600-700)

I tried Omega Drivers, but the performance was worse than with the newest drivers. The performance is also bad in games..


I found something.

When I put the values in RivaTuner in default (725/800), Everest shows that the card GPU is working with only 110Mhz (in stress it jumps to around 292Mhz for a sec), and the original speed is 725Mhz.. But GPUz says is 725 mhz, which do I have to believe?

When you enable all the monitoring options in rivatuner, there should be one that monitors real time clockspeed. See if you can't get a second opinion from that. Also make sure you have a 3D app running (ATI tools artifact scanner/3d mode is a good one), to make sure the clocks are in 3D mode and not 2D mode.

Using something like SiSoftware's Sandra (or maybe everest), does the performance of the synthetic benchmarks for the rest of your system seem to be where they should be, like memory and cpu score. (Sandra has reference values that you can compare against)

Dan

I've made some screens with some software monitoring, and the results are really weird. I think there is no explanation needed:






As you see, my processor is slower than older Pentium D's with lower clocks :/.
About the Cpu temperature, Asus Probe shows 42 degrees, which one to believe? (3 different results)\
Oh, one more thing. When I try to change the settings in Atitool, I raise the sliders and push apply. But when I push apply the settung just return to those you see on the screen (very low ones) :S.

ps. why does sandra say I dont have 3dnow and emmx?


Okay.. That's it, my dad has the same proc and his SiSisoft score was like 3x higher than mine -,- This is really ****.

ATI tool will be reporting 0Mhz for clock and memory as it probably doesn't support your card yet. Rivatuner show's that it is running at the correct speed though.

Well if i had to guess, I'd say that the CPU is overheating during load and it's throttling back to stop it burning up. That would account for it's poor performance.

You should try reseating the heatsink (with new thermal paste if possible) to make sure that it has good contact. With there only being one temperature probe between the 2 cores it could be that one of the two is too hot, and you'd never know.

I'm not sure if it would work with a dual core, but you could try running the throttle monitoring program linked to in this article.
Also try grabbing speedfan and see what it reports the temperatures as (when you are doing something processor intensive, superpi or that calculator trick would work great).

Just eliminating things here, but there isn't anything running (look in task manager) that is using up the CPU causing bad performance is there?

Dan

One other thing, it could be something on the motherboard overheating or not playing nice.

You should install the Asus probe software and check that it says everything is ok with your board.

Dan

I have the Asus Probe already and it doesn;t say there's anything wrong..

By speedfan, with full load (2x calculator trick) the temp doesn;t go above 40-45, which is amazingly low for a Pentium D, even when I removed one side of the case for the airtstream :S.

And no, there are no heavy processes.

Mkay, reseated heatsink and even resetted bios. Didn't help.