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SPEC: Conroe Chipset Support

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:43 pm
by DMB2000uk
Do people think that conroe would work on a LGA775 945G Mobo?

Im guessing it would, but with its own chipset at launch, it makes me wonder.

Dan

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:16 pm
by dicecca112
from what we have heard no, it will need its own chipset, i think 965, but there has been some rumors it will work on 975

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:47 pm
by pointreyes
dicecca112 wrote:from what we have heard no, it will need its own chipset, i think 965, but there has been some rumors it will work on 975
That's what I have been hearing as well.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:35 pm
by Apoptosis
don't hold you're breath that the 945 will support it. I'll go out on a limb and say no it wont due to the power requirements of the processor. :)

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:29 am
by DMB2000uk
Cheers guys.

I guess we wont know for certain untill closer to/the actual release date.

Just means I'm gonna need a new mobo too when its launched :P

Dan

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:59 am
by Apoptosis
let me put it more direct... you will need a new motherboard. The Intel 945/955 chipsets are not going to support it. The intel 975X chipset might depending on the power requirements... Remember when the Prescott came out and some boards supported it and some didnt? It was due to how the mobo guys designed their boards -- if they cut costs by doing a cheap power design then it wont support conroe. It is power hungry with all the cache.

Sad but true it looks like Intel is going to keep up the new chipset per new cpu in 2006.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:25 am
by kenc51
let's hope they add some new features to this new chipset.....
Not like moving from 925x to the 975x........

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:00 am
by pointreyes
Asus seems to be the one mobo manufacturer that tries to accomodate for various procs. I remember the P4C800E-Deluxe supporting even Willamette cored procs all the way through the Prescott core. Very wide range to cover. The 975 chipset Asus boards should be out now or within the next week.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:11 am
by Apoptosis
Yeah the P5WD2-E

If it is ANYTHING like the 955X board it should be killer.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:15 am
by pointreyes
Yeah, that's the Asus board I'm a talkin' about. :)
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=247059

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:23 am
by Apoptosis
holy sticker shock batman... needs to be $250 not $299

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:33 am
by dicecca112
I'd say 150, the day I pay more than 150 for a motherboard is the day I hit the lottery

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:33 am
by pointreyes
Newegg has it list for $270. ETA is 2/6/06.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131589

Sticker shock? Look at the Asus board I want to get:
Warning! Looking at the price of this board may cause a person to pass-out, please sit down before clicking on that link. :mrgreen:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=247061

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:35 am
by dicecca112
you have got to be kidding me, I could put half a system together for that price

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:42 am
by Apoptosis
wow that is one expensive desktop board! For $380 it better make me a good cup of joe in the morning, walk the dog, and take out the trash.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:49 am
by pointreyes
dicecca112 wrote:you have got to be kidding me, I could put half a system together for that price
That board is a workstation board - not a desktop board. That means it's a 6-layer board. It also has PCI-X, PCIe, PCI, and SATA. That's four separate buses on one board. That is a lot of complex technology to put on a board. I just happen to need the PCI-X technology. My current Intel 955XBK board is driving me nuts with the lost of performance by not having PCI-X. It's still less expensive than purchasing a PCIe x8 controller for $600+ just for replacing the PCI-X controller I have.

One thing is for sure, that board does provide a lot more than my two year old dual Xeon board provides which cost $450.

Here's more details on the board: http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l ... odelmenu=1
This is a very serious workstation board.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:10 pm
by infinitevalence
Sticker shock.... please

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=241864

and the price can still go up, add ultra320 SCSI to it and its over $500 :)

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=241863

when it comes to workstation boards the $$ just go up and up... I have Iwill, Supermicro, Tyan, and Asus workstation boards and the Asus is by far the cheapest because it has no PCI-X. I cant remember if the Iwill or Supermicro was more but both have PCI-X but the Iwill will overclock my C1 Xeons so i use that one more. I just use the Supermicro with a single 2.8 xeon and my 6 disk SCSI RAID.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:32 pm
by pointreyes
I was an early adopter of the K8W Thunder: $500 for the board. Had to get rid of the system due to problems with not accepting revision E Opterons. :( That is extremely important for me since my main focus is not gaming but virtualization, NLE, programming, and security.

Supermicro has a 'competitive' board to the Asus board for $300 but it requires unregistered ECC RAM and I already have 3 Gigs of non-ECC RAM. The $80 difference cannot compensate for the change in memory.
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /PDSG4.cfm