Say Good-bye to Tax Free interent Buying

[-mogwai]

yaaaaay for being forced into lame taxes because we're wasting billions in a sandbox.... yaaaaay.....

[Tim Burton]

They'll pass it if they feel like they are being gyped out of $. I better start my list

Well, if Rep. Shaddag gets to be the Majority Leader in the House, he won't let it pass the House. So start calling your Reps who are Reps and tell them you want Shaddagg. Shaddagg wants to cut taxes and government spending in the form of Reagan Republicanism.

In the best form of Orwellian Speak, they are calling this:

Sales Tax Fairness and Simplification Act

LOL! Fairness and Simplification....

Also, because they know this won't go over on all of the small businesses, they are only going to worry about companies with 5 million+ worth of sales, but you know what happens the minute they get their foot in the door. Next up is those with 4 Million in Sales, and then 3 and so on.

I can't help, but this what the Founding Fathers would say. After all, they rioted for a 3% tax.

[Tim Burton]

They will pass this sooner or later, they need money for war. And they've almost cut all the money they could possibly cut to students and higher education.

Uh, you do realize that NO money has been cut for those two. They just haven't increased the spending at twice the rate of inflation. Typically, when inflation is at 3.7%, they increase government spending at 7-8%. Instead, the Congress only increased spending at 4%. In typical Orwellian Speak, they called this a "Spending Cut."

Also, the war isn't costing as much as people would expect with regards to the national debt, because of the tax cuts boosting the economy. Basically, the added revenues from the better economy has covered the difference.

What I don't understand is why people expect to have the government pay for school for them. I went, didn't take out student loans and paid cash for college, and no my school wasn't subsidized, because it was private.

[Tim Burton]

It's "funny" the way your country can spend soo much money.....yet, you don't direct see any benefit, ever..... Canada has the right idea with no medical costs.....and your taxes could easily pay for it!

(outsider looking in!)

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/

Trust me, you don't want Canadian Healthcare.

[Tim Burton]

Well, apparently, people were gullible enough to trade billions in goverment spending that would've gone towards public services like education for a $200 tax-cut check.

And people wonder why the richest nation in the world is producing students who score near rock bottom in worldwide education tests.

Uh, we spend more on students than ANY nation. Right now, the average spending is $10,000 dollars per a student. I just counted the students in this class that I am substituting for (which since it is an AP class has 13 students). So figure $130,000 per a class. This district's average pay to a teacher is 42K. So you are telling me that over 85K isn't enough for students to learn? Can you explain to me why the Catholic School (Brophy Prep in Phoenix) across the Canal can do it better for 8K a year and so can most private schools do it better when the average tuition for a private HS is less than 5K a year and Brophy pays teachers College Level pay at 60K for starters, but they also expect a Masters.

The better explaination of why our kids are stupid, is that we have a Communist type education, and we know that Communism was failure.

I wish someone would have BTed Jon Stossel's documentary: Stupid in America

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1500338
http://www.reason.com/hod/js011306.shtml

So to complain that the spending is the problem is foolish and ignorant.

Don't even get me started on why 85% of the tax-cut money goes to the top 20% when they only paid 70% of the total.

According to the IRS's own numbers:

The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes


Source: IRS published numbers of taxpayers in 2003

So why should the people on the bottom that pays 4% get much back? In fact, everyone who pays taxes got back 300 dollars, yet there were screams that the poor didn't get enough back. How do you get something back you don't pay?

So the reason that it is 85% is because the numbers are skewed a bit since it doesn't take into consideration the exponential fact of tax increase due to our Communist....errr....progressive tax system.

[Tim Burton]

I'm not saying this in a matter of fact type of attitude because I'm curious if anyone has done a study on this.

Europe public transportation vs United States public transportation

I'd say no, because people keep forgetting that it isn't just vehicles that run the cost of oil/demand for oil, but also plastics. Ever look around and see what is NOT made with plastics?

[Tim Burton]

yaaaaay for being forced into lame taxes because we're wasting billions in a sandbox.... yaaaaay.....

Well, we could charge Iraq for the money spent, by demanding that we get paid for 50% of all oil pumped. In other words US companies could bid on the oil, pick it up and pay the US for the oil, but then the Left would cry that it was all for oil. In fact, that was one of the proposals to pay for Iraq and it was shot down, as political folly, because it would justify the argument that the war was for oil.

So now, we are footing the bill and not going to get any of the cash back. I think the war was needed to stop Saddam from continued training of terrorists and even worse giving them WMD and such, but I would have liked to be paid back for the cost.

[Tim Burton]

Here is the link for Stossel's Documentary: Stupid in America

http://www.mininova.org/tor/199080


Mods: If this is against the rule, please delete.

[pointreyes]

Tim Burton, if the link gets removed please PM me with the link.

[Tim Burton]

If it does, go to mininova's site and search "Stupid America"

[-mogwai]

It's "funny" the way your country can spend soo much money.....yet, you don't direct see any benefit, ever..... Canada has the right idea with no medical costs.....and your taxes could easily pay for it!

(outsider looking in!)

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/

Trust me, you don't want Canadian Healthcare.

i don't think his post was about wanting canadian healthcare... i think his post was aimed at how canada has national healthcare because they manage their money more wisely than we do. i could be wrong, but that's what i got out of it.

[Tim Burton]

Either way, keep it away.

Actually, think about it. If we can't keep Medicare financially afloat, what makes us think we can universal healthcare.

[kenc51]

Either way, keep it away.

Actually, think about it. If we can't keep Medicare financially afloat, what makes us think we can universal healthcare.

That's the prob......Canada have less of an Annual budget....but they try to look out for their citizens first. America's Govt say they are doing the same, they may even allocate more money....buy you guys see no REAL benefits!

It's not just Canada....Lots of countries do things to actually help their citizens.....not to say the US govt doesn't...just saying they are not doing enough.......mayby needs to get their priorities right!

:again, outsider looking in....but that can be a good thing:

[Antonik]

Either way, keep it away.

Actually, think about it. If we can't keep Medicare financially afloat, what makes us think we can universal healthcare.

That's the prob......Canada have less of an Annual budget....but they try to look out for their citizens first. America's Govt say they are doing the same, they may even allocate more money....buy you guys see no REAL benefits!

It's not just Canada....Lots of countries do things to actually help their citizens.....not to say the US govt doesn't...just saying they are not doing enough.......mayby needs to get their priorities right!

:again, outsider looking in....but that can be a good thing:

Our Govt is busy being the Protectors of Democracy and all that good stuff.

[sbohdan]

That's the prob......Canada have less of an Annual budget....but they try to look out for their citizens first. America's Govt say they are doing the same, they may even allocate more money....buy you guys see no REAL benefits!

It's not just Canada....Lots of countries do things to actually help their citizens.....not to say the US govt doesn't...just saying they are not doing enough.......mayby needs to get their priorities right!

:again, outsider looking in....but that can be a good thing:

I would add if you wonder what happens to the money. simple: no other country spends more on weapons then the US
it's citizens aren't first priority when it comes to spending, only when paying taxes

[Mortious]

No other country spends more on space exploration either, which is still a moot point.

If you think nothing good comes out of military spending, then your not paying attention to the gadgets in your life...

[T-Shirt]

To get back (closer) to the point of this thread.....
Why do you believe that internet purchases should be tax free?
Don't you believe there are were public costs in developing the infrastructure that allows you to shop online?
Shouldn't those costs be payed for/reimbursed by users at least in some small part?