Record company attacks RIAA over lawsuits

sbohdan · Post by **sbohdan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:25 pm

these a*****s finally got what they deserve

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29323

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:33 pm

Bunch of money grabbing bullies..........

I haven't bought a CD for myself in about 2years.....mainly because of nothing worth buying.....but now? I may just start downloading sh1t loads just in-spite of them

sbohdan · Post by **sbohdan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:44 pm

kenc51 wrote:Bunch of money grabbing bullies..........

I haven't bought a CD for myself in about 2years.....mainly because of nothing worth buying.....but now? I may just start downloading sh1t loads just in-spite of them

exactly my thoughts on that.

Mortious · Post by **Mortious** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:49 am

My problem with the whole CD thing is there may be one or two songs that are good on it, Ill be damed if Im going to spend 12 to 18 bucks for one or two songs...

DeusEx · Post by **DeusEx** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:12 am

u dont have to buy cds, u can pay 99 cents per song... downlaoding is illegal tho i wish it wasnt. My cousin got the dreaded letter saying if he dont stop downloadin, he going to hae to go to court. obviously he stopped and that was that. he gotl ucky i guess.

Mortious · Post by **Mortious** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:21 am

Very true now. I stopped buying CDs about 10 years ago, that was way before any single song purchse on the internet. I just havn't had a reason to buy anything new.

DeusEx · Post by **DeusEx** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:11 pm

dont u guys think they should just make all P2P sofware illegal, and prevent its distribution as well as use? wouldnt it make sense just to shut down limewire, kazaa, torrent, gokster etc... instead of prosecuting endless consumers ? isnt it about time the US gov used some common sense instead of petty politics and beuracracy getting in the way of necassary reforms ?

sbohdan · Post by **sbohdan** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:28 pm

DeusEx wrote:dont u guys think they should just make all P2P sofware illegal, and prevent its distribution as well as use? wouldnt it make sense just to shut down limewire, kazaa, torrent, gokster etc... instead of prosecuting endless consumers ? isnt it about time the US gov used some common sense instead of petty politics and beuracracy getting in the way of necassary reforms ?

well check out "the fabulous life of..." on MTV or other music channels. these people make so much $$ they don't know how to spend it (or rather waste it). now if you consider that the artists make only the fracture of what the recording companies make, then you might get the picture how much they ripping us all off. now if the CD's would cost maybe $2-3 as they supposed to, then nobody would be downloading or pirating

BTW, in china warner bros is officially selling DVD's for $2-3 with still a huge profit margin, so imagine how much they ripping you off here...
I wish everybody would download and share, maybe that would make those B******S think about it and stop ripping off people.

Mortious · Post by **Mortious** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:28 pm

It will never work, they could never shut something like that down, sure they could do the napster thing, but look at what that has done, its spawned off 10 times the P2P networks.

Piracy both software and now music has always been an issue, and will continue to be an issue as long as there are coders out there that feel the need to see if they can break the current scheme of copy protection.

Piracy will also continue to be an issue for as long as software publishers (and to some extent music producers) continue to release crap.

For me I don't want to go and purchase some game to only find out I hate the game, it didn't live up to its hype, or was just too damn short (done in a sitting), and find out that I can't return it for a refund, so Im stuck with the cost of something Im not happy with.

There really isn't any other non food product(s) sold today that holds that sort of power over the consumer like software/music/movies. And even with most food stuff, if you don't like it you can usually write the company for a refund of the purchase price.

sbohdan · Post by **sbohdan** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:30 pm

Mortious wrote: There really isn't any other non food product(s) sold today that holds that sort of power over the consumer like software/music/movies. And even with most food stuff, if you don't like it you can usually write the company for a refund of the purchase price.

right said

Zelig · Post by **Zelig** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:54 pm

DeusEx wrote:u dont have to buy cds, u can pay 99 cents per song... downlaoding is illegal tho i wish it wasnt. My cousin got the dreaded letter saying if he dont stop downloadin, he going to hae to go to court. obviously he stopped and that was that. he gotl ucky i guess.

Sadly, there's nowhere to legally download full quality lossless music, so I (and other people picky about quality) are stuck with purchased CDs as the only legal method of obtaining music.

DeusEx wrote:dont u guys think they should just make all P2P sofware illegal, and prevent its distribution as well as use? wouldnt it make sense just to shut down limewire, kazaa, torrent, gokster etc... instead of prosecuting endless consumers ? isnt it about time the US gov used some common sense instead of petty politics and beuracracy getting in the way of necassary reforms ?

Except the RIAA only has influence in the US, and most of these programs originate in other countries.

Mortious wrote:Piracy will also continue to be an issue for as long as software publishers (and to some extent music producers) continue to release crap.

Piracy of a product is not proportional to its suckiness. Most pieces of software have trials available in order for people to try them before purchase. The vast majority of people who pirate music don't do it just to see if they like the artist; if they like the music, they'll keep it, otherwise, they'll delete it.

pointreyes · Post by **pointreyes** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:03 pm

DeusEx wrote:dont u guys think they should just make all P2P sofware illegal, and prevent its distribution as well as use? wouldnt it make sense just to shut down limewire, kazaa, torrent, gokster etc... instead of prosecuting endless consumers ? isnt it about time the US gov used some common sense instead of petty politics and beuracracy getting in the way of necassary reforms ?

But this is an example of being socially engineered to believe that P2P software is illegal.

That is basically what the entertainment industry wants all of us to believe. The entertainment industry needs to apply some common sense in realizing that if they would make it easier not harder for law abiding citizens to enjoy their entertainment without an outrageously expensive cost that more citizens would buy their products. Instead they want you to provide them with a very high return for very little entertainment.

One example of this happening is with Battlestar Galactica - finally for those of us that don't want to shell out $50 a month just to have a chance to watch a very few select shows can finally watch the series for $2 on each show through iTunes. Now this creates an interesting situation because even at $2 a show the cost is less expensive to purchase the DVD set at the end of the season! If it's $50 for 24 shows then you are paying $48 for quality that is not equal to DVD quality and yet you also don't have to deal with commercials or even the time to burn the iTune show. Nevertheless, it nice to finally see the industry trying to do something like this. Change the focus from "it's illegal to it's ok to pay to see it this way."

Mortious · Post by **Mortious** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:23 pm

Piracy of a product is not proportional to its suckiness. Most pieces of software have trials available in order for people to try them before purchase. The vast majority of people who pirate music don't do it just to see if they like the artist; if they like the music, they'll keep it, otherwise, they'll delete it.

Though I agree with you in part, most software does indeed have trials, as some or even most can attest here, those demo's often lack what the complete game will be or not be. In most cases newly released software often doesn't have a demo available prior to release date.

For me the ability to view a full game before hand drives if I buy it or not. If I like it, I buy it, mainly because of the fun things companies pack in the boxes, if I don't then there is no money out of my pocket.