Ebay Sucks: 6.8 GHZ PENTIUM D CPU For $310

[linkinparkks]

keychain? cool
..... never thought of that, should try it.

[urmamasucks]

What? You mean that you really can't do that?

I foresee a class action lawsuit against Utopia Computers for false advertisement on the horizon.

Since this is about OC'ing, what speeds have you guys acheived using your best OC'ing methods? Just curious of what someone with the know how can actually get out of a processor.

Razorbacx

I have read the information you have all the postings and it's funny that someone would make the above comment and yet has NO knowledge and apparently no understanding of what overclocking means. With that said, I truly wonder how many people even know what the heck they are talking about. Perhaps you all shouldn't check out the eBay user Digitalcrack and see the listings as well as the feedback. Oh wait, those buyers must be IDIOTS or are they just really more knowledgable ? Come to think about it, I wonder why Intel made a board that supported 2 separate cpu's ? Could it be for faster speed ?? Nah, they just wanted to rip people off. You people really need to get a clue as to what you're talking about before inserting your wothless wisdom. I'm sure that someone will pull this soon after it's posted, but that just shows what type of people this forum really has. Good day gentlemen

[kenc51]

I have read the information you have all the postings and it's funny that someone would make the above comment and yet has NO knowledge and apparently no understanding of what overclocking means. With that said, I truly wonder how many people even know what the heck they are talking about. Perhaps you all shouldn't check out the eBay user Digitalcrack and see the listings as well as the feedback. Oh wait, those buyers must be IDIOTS or are they just really more knowledgable ? Come to think about it, I wonder why Intel made a board that supported 2 separate cpu's ? Could it be for faster speed ?? Nah, they just wanted to rip people off. You people really need to get a clue as to what you're talking about before inserting your wothless wisdom. I'm sure that someone will pull this soon after it's posted, but that just shows what type of people this forum really has. Good day gentlemen

Chill out man! Also you don't make any sence........and no, we're not going to "pull this".

Good day to you too sir!

[urmamasucks]

chill out ?? LOL, I think that it's the people here that need to chill out and get educated before posting information about something that they know nothing about. I've seen this in other forums as well, CHILDREN, yes 15 yo's that think that they know everything. However, life goes on and so will ours.

[Apoptosis]

The Owner of Utopia Computers is here!

I'm sure that someone will pull this soon after it's posted, but that just shows what type of people this forum really has. Good day gentlemen

This forum has some of the best members on the net that pride themselves for being straight up and honest. When someone tries to put one over on those not in the know we like to point it out here... Sorry I don't see Intel selling 2.4GHz Quad-Core Kentsfield processors as 9.6Ghz processors (2.4GHz x 4 cores) or their Intel 805 Processors as 5.32GHz (really 2.66GHz)...

How do you justify selling your E-Bay auctions as you do? No one here is insulting you, but we just don't agree with how you are selling your E-Bay auctions. You honestly can add up the cores and times it by the frequency and sell platforms like that.

I know why you are marking your items like that... you get more hits and some people that don't know what they are doing will buy it... How would you feel if something like that happened to one of your family members?

Oh and since this forum is full of children... please explain to us how you get you're amazing 6.8GHz processors!?!?

[urmamasucks]

Okay let me see if I can explain this and perhaps someone, MAYBE will understand. When you speak of quad pumping, you're referring to pumping 4 times( hmm on an INTEL ??) LOL..... the information or threads through a SINGLE CORE. So to better illustrate this lets try this. If you was on a 4 lane (quad) highway crossing a bridge and they all went down to 1 lane at the beginning of the bridge, the amount of traffic that crosses through is more than if it was just 1 single lane. Correct ?? Okay so far we are doing good. HENCE A SINGLE CORE CPU

Now on to the dual core with the same axample as above we have 2 SEPARATE CPU's mounted on the same die, hence 2 wide open lanes going across 2 separate bridges.....WOW, now I wonder how many more got across to the other side ?

What I believe that you people are thinking is that we or anyone else that sells them on eBay is that the speed of the cpu is running at 6.8 ghz. That's not what it means, it means that it can process the same amount of information as if it was a single core cpu, which doesn't exist, atleast not yet.

Another example, if you was filling 2 swimming pools, which one would fill faster ? The one with 1 hose (single core) or the one with 2 hoses (2 cores) ?

The sad thing is that very few if any games use the power of both cores but that's about to change.

I hope that this enlightens everyone a bit, atleast from where we stand. Comments are welcomed just not get into a rival argument.



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[urmamasucks]

Oh by the way, yes the original speed of the cpu is 2.8 ghz with each core overclocked to 3.4 ghz

[kenc51]

Okay let me see if I can explain this and perhaps someone, MAYBE will understand. When you speak of quad pumping, you're referring to pumping 4 times( hmm on an INTEL ??) LOL..... the information or threads through a SINGLE CORE. So to better illustrate this lets try this. If you was on a 4 lane (quad) highway crossing a bridge and they all went down to 1 lane at the beginning of the bridge, the amount of traffic that crosses through is more than if it was just 1 single lane. Correct ?? Okay so far we are doing good. HENCE A SINGLE CORE CPU

Now on to the dual core with the same axample as above we have 2 SEPARATE CPU's mounted on the same die, hence 2 wide open lanes going across 2 separate bridges.....WOW, now I wonder how many more got across to the other side ?

What I believe that you people are thinking is that we or anyone else that sells them on eBay is that the speed of the cpu is running at 6.8 ghz. That's not what it means, it means that it can process the same amount of information as if it was a single core cpu, which doesn't exist, atleast not yet.

Another example, if you was filling 2 swimming pools, which one would fill faster ? The one with 1 hose (single core) or the one with 2 hoses (2 cores) ?

The sad thing is that very few if any games use the power of both cores but that's about to change.

I hope that this enlightens everyone a bit, atleast from where we stand. Comments are welcomed just not get into a rival argument.



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2x cpu cores sharing 1 memory controller and other resources will never manage 200% performance compared to single core!


Your "~6GHz" cpu IS missleading.....Intel and AMD are known for exaggerating their performance numbers (like all Companies). BUT they don't sell their chips as ~6GHz chips!

No one wants an argument......your very welcome here.......but you must understand we look out for each other here....as you pointed out we have some younger members here......but we also have novice users.

Are these not your market? People who do know know? (yet)

As Apoptosis said...

How would you feel if something like that happened to one of your family members?

[=LAS=Hellfire]

sooo as they are taking advantage of the less experienced masses out there couldnt they be sued for false advertising...even if they think they can explain it all away, shouldnt there be some kind of warning or sumthing here as hundreds maybe thousands of people are being screwed over... hmmm someone should look into this, i see quite a bit of money coming out of this!!! new computer for me!!!!

[Apoptosis]

Okay let me see if I can explain this and perhaps someone, MAYBE will understand. When you speak of quad pumping, you're referring to pumping 4 times( hmm on an INTEL ??) LOL..... the information or threads through a SINGLE CORE. So to better illustrate this lets try this. If you was on a 4 lane (quad) highway crossing a bridge and they all went down to 1 lane at the beginning of the bridge, the amount of traffic that crosses through is more than if it was just 1 single lane. Correct ?? Okay so far we are doing good. HENCE A SINGLE CORE CPU

Now on to the dual core with the same axample as above we have 2 SEPARATE CPU's mounted on the same die, hence 2 wide open lanes going across 2 separate bridges.....WOW, now I wonder how many more got across to the other side ?

What I believe that you people are thinking is that we or anyone else that sells them on eBay is that the speed of the cpu is running at 6.8 ghz. That's not what it means, it means that it can process the same amount of information as if it was a single core cpu, which doesn't exist, atleast not yet.

Another example, if you was filling 2 swimming pools, which one would fill faster ? The one with 1 hose (single core) or the one with 2 hoses (2 cores) ?

The sad thing is that very few if any games use the power of both cores but that's about to change.

I hope that this enlightens everyone a bit, atleast from where we stand. Comments are welcomed just not get into a rival argument.



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Kentsfield is a quad-core processor. Meaning that it has four cores now lanes. Since you have no clue about Intel processors I suggest taking a look here to find out what Kentsfield is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core ... chitecture

Kentsfield, quad-core MCM, consists of two Conroes, with 2 × 4 MiB L2 (8 MiB L2

You're missing the point... You can't add the frequency of each core together! A 3GHz dual core processor shouldn't be sold at 6GHz.

Welcome to my little site and space on the web. Let me start off by asking you to knock it off. I know you're not an idiot and neither are the members on this forum. You were seen selling dual-core cpu's at twice their rated speed as you added the frequency each core together, which is not the proper thing to do.

That's the only point we are trying to make... defend that, but do not flame any of my members again.

[Bwall]

Okay let me see if I can explain this and perhaps someone, MAYBE will understand. When you speak of quad pumping, you're referring to pumping 4 times( hmm on an INTEL ??) LOL..... the information or threads through a SINGLE CORE. So to better illustrate this lets try this. If you was on a 4 lane (quad) highway crossing a bridge and they all went down to 1 lane at the beginning of the bridge, the amount of traffic that crosses through is more than if it was just 1 single lane. Correct ?? Okay so far we are doing good. HENCE A SINGLE CORE CPU

Now on to the dual core with the same axample as above we have 2 SEPARATE CPU's mounted on the same die, hence 2 wide open lanes going across 2 separate bridges.....WOW, now I wonder how many more got across to the other side ?

What I believe that you people are thinking is that we or anyone else that sells them on eBay is that the speed of the cpu is running at 6.8 ghz. That's not what it means, it means that it can process the same amount of information as if it was a single core cpu, which doesn't exist, atleast not yet.

Another example, if you was filling 2 swimming pools, which one would fill faster ? The one with 1 hose (single core) or the one with 2 hoses (2 cores) ?

The sad thing is that very few if any games use the power of both cores but that's about to change.

I hope that this enlightens everyone a bit, atleast from where we stand. Comments are welcomed just not get into a rival argument.



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The only way to effectively get 6.8GHz out of a 3.4GHz dual core is through core Multiplexing technology which is not yet available and may never be. (and it still won't be 100% effecient AND will only work on single threaded applications)

Currently a 3.4GHz dual core will simply process a multi-threaded application at 3.4GHz on two cores and does not gain 100% effeciency, but more on the order of 85-90% at best.

Let's take a look at my Conroe shall we? At 3.1 GHz in WinRAR 3.50 beta 7. Using the test and benchmark mode to remove any hard disk limitations, it will process around 900KB/s in single core configuration, and only around 1610Kb/s in multithread.

900KB/s x2= 1800KB/s
1800 x 90%= 1620
...so my processor is 89-90% effecient in that test, and is most likely the highest you will see percentage wise simply because all communications are completed between the memory and the CPU. Testing in Divx or something like that and the numbers drop because the hard disk is involved and the CPU can only move as the fast as the slowest part in the subsystem being utilized. A Pentium 4 is even less effecient than Core 2 Duo (Conroe)...

Now THIS is a 6.8GHz + processor.

I hope that my testing, which was just proven, has enlightened YOU. Until such time you can provide evidence that your CPU's are working at 6.8GHz effectively, we will continue to point out the FUD and flaws in your ebay sales.

Uneducated children my arse.... Good day.

[=LAS=Hellfire]

hmmm sure he wasnt tampering or photoshoppping or a glitch????

[urmamasucks]

sure look slike tampering to me...LMAO

[Apoptosis]

Okay guys.. I'm locking this thread...

Utopia Computers has avoided the question posed to them, which was the fact that You can't add the frequency of each core together! A 3GHz dual core processor shouldn't be sold at 6GHz

By avoiding this question a number of times when it's in bold and sent directly to them in private message it means they are here playing games.

Everyone knows that their math doesn't add up and people like Utopia Computers are ripping people off on E-Bay that don't know any better.

This thread just shows that these forums get around and work. I just hope this thread helped someone on E-Bay.