Rogers Throttling P2P applications

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Rogers Throttling P2P applications

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3 hours ago, before I got a new modem, my download speeds were at 220KB. Now, after setting up the new modem I get 0! Yes, 0! So I did some googling and found out that Rogers started doing this since the beginning of February. I called tech support and found out that this throttling was done on purpose.

Is there a way to get past this throttling?? This simply isn't fair for us consumers! Usually it takes me 20min to download a complete episode of anime, but in 1 hour, I have only 3MB completed!!

The sad thing is that I can't go to Bell because of bad previous experience. If things continue like this, Rogers is going to lose a LOT of customers in the next few months.

Rogers and Bell = Canadian ISP.
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Who the hell is rogers?
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Gave Rogers a call just now. The guy said that the throttling was to stop people from downloading illegal software. Well that's stupid.....

Rogers is my ISP.
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OK :-s
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Yeah disconnecting everyone will stop them from downloading ANYTHING...switch ISPs.
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Never heard of Rogers! :rolleyes:
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You probably can't do anything legal to solve that little... issue but there must be a cable provider in Toronto... Videotron, Cogeco or something.

Oh and... Bell does suck, they lost quite a bit to Videotron lately, in Quebec atleast.
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verizon ftw? fios 15 mb down 3 up?
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HONkUS wrote:Image
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im sorry but i saw that coming from someone!! LOLOLOLOL
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Guys....please be serious....it's a huge problem....
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geokilla wrote:Gave Rogers a call just now. The guy said that the throttling was to stop people from downloading illegal software. Well that's stupid.....

Rogers is my ISP.
I'm confused....it's to help s top piracy......and it's working because it's keeping you from pirating video. How is what they did stupid?

Logically what they did was smart. It just sucks for you because it worked.

I don't know the solution to your problem....except don't download illegally?

Now if some how this anime IS legal, then I apologize and it still sucks. It would be Rogers responsibility to fix it.
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It depends!
If it's throttling using bittorrent, try another port. They might have only set it on specific ports. Try downloading something from download.com, if it's still slow, there's nothing you can do except upgrade to another package which has a minimum speed (usually a business product)
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change ISP.

An ISP can limit your speeds if they want! what you pay for is the potential to reach their advertised speeds (rate adaptive!) no-one says the speeds will be met at all times!
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wow this is interesting... I wonder how many others do this.
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Post by stopthekilling77 »

all i know is that LR stays on the right side of the tracks so if it was illegal downloading i have to agree with Mad_Goku

(i'd switch to a more lenient ISP anyways though)
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Post by dgood »

well I can tell you timewarner and when It was adelphia never had problems and still dont. I've had a lot of local small town isps do it though. Or at least block torrenting (even of legal programs) and other things along those lines.
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ISP's only limit the bandwidth when they are getting charged for going over their own limits! --> yes ISP's have to pay for the data to be downloaded into their own network, kinda like having an ISP's ISP. Usually it's the smaller companies who charge/limit your usage. Companies like MCI etc have the backbone network for the internet, they charge a fixed rate for using it, then charge a penalty for going over the limit, cost is usually ALOT for each GB/TB over the limit.

It seems like you need to switch to another ISP, preferably a large one or one that's a subsidiary of a large company, they generally buy/demand enough data allowance to never have to worry about additional charges.
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Post by Gamble »

You got a new modem right? Try reinstalling the old one...and why switch in the first place? I am completely content with 220kbps, its a decent speed, were you looking for more?
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That might work, especially if rogers shipped that new one :-k
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I don't download anything illegally. Anime is legal, that's why it's called a fansub.

I switched the modem because the old one was said to be obsolete. I had to bring in my old modem to get the new one.

It seems that they are throttling BT packets, and other packets that are related to P2P programs. My download speeds from download.com are great. I got over 220KB there.
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