Just got my Fx-60 would love some feedback

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:10 am

So I just got my fx-60 and my zalman cnps9700 set up in my computer today. I'm not posistive what version of bios my mobo is running so I want to make sure everything looks right with cpu-z and everest and my temperatures being close to idle when I took the picture possible a little higher since I had just run 3dmark05 once through.

I am going to go for an oc to 3.0ghz with the multiplier first if possible I think and then if need be try boosting the fsb but my ram is already screwy at 333 of my 400 fsb.
I would love the feedback I have seen the thread on the fx-60 overclock by apop, and will use it as a reference along with some other sites, i'm just hoping my temps look good and my cores both appearing. It shows 2 cores/2 threads in cpuz but doesn't let me select processors like it used to in older versions so I was wondering if they changed it for multi proccessor computers now too?
* that is everest in the background showing my temps and such.
currently my temps according to everest are cpu-30 C, core 1 - 30 C, core 2 26C

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:20 am

It appears that in 3dmark it registers my processor with no name, is this normal?

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:21 pm

so far I turned the multi up to 14 from 13 default and booted to windows on stock voltage and had windows crash so I boosted the voltage from default to 1.35 my motherboard allows for voltage for .25v increments up to 1.7v. windows crashed again after cpuz gave me my reading at 1.33v or something and it wouldn't' stay stay there it kept reading default voltage and 1.33. any idea? should I put a little more juice into it and see if I can run some tests at 200fsb and 14x multi?my temps were never very high but thats because I never got a chance to test. more than opening cpuz. would love some feed back, il'll be back shortly.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:28 pm

Instability but i'm surfing with it at the moment

what do do from here should I put the multi back at 13 lower my memory divider and raise the fsb? or just boost the voltage to 1.4? first I guess I should wait until someone tells me what this computers problem with actually setting the voltage is? since its not registering 1.375 volts like it should only 1.34 or something.

SAMSAMHA · Post by **SAMSAMHA** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:43 pm

it does not pass the orth, I think you should try to lower the speed a tad until you get it stable.

cyberneticimplant · Post by **cyberneticimplant** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:50 am

first I guess I should wait until someone tells me what this computers problem with actually setting the voltage is? since its not registering 1.375 volts like it should only 1.34 or something.

It could be the power supply not being able to provide sufficient voltage to the CPU. I have a cheap generic power supply in a old Celeron, and the CPU voltage is about 0.20 volts under it's defualt value because of the cheap PSU. That would be my guess.

Post by **Apoptosis** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:55 am

please list full system specs including BIOS version and all that and I can get a better idea of what is going on before I start shooting out ideas!

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:59 am

Chaintech VNF4 Ultra Zenith VE
4x512mb Patriot Signature Series PC3200 DDR ram
Amd Athlon 64 FX-60 OEM
Zalman CNPS 9700 LED
Rosewill Extreme Edition RE502 PSU
x800 gto ->x800xt
I think my bios version is 5, because it seems to be registering both cores of my cpu and I think until version 5 this motherboard didn't support dual core processors. however the website seems to not be up for that specific part anymore.
Hiper PSU is on the way so I can test if its the psu problem. should be here tommarow or monday. I didn't order it a friend did.
what else do you need?
*EDIT:* Bios version is phoenix award bios version 6 according to everest

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:44 pm

Orthos failed in 1sec?

Am I seeing that right??
You should set the voltage to 1.4v to start with, the try for 2.8GHz. If it fails Orthos, then the problem is likely to be something other than the CPU.

Can you list your bios settings? all voltages, multipliers etc.
Also post a screenshot of A64Tweaker

Go easy until you get the new cpu incase, I haven't heard of rosewill and I'm sceptical

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:59 pm

everything is at stock, and but it seems that it is probably my power supply. i'm going to borrow a friends psu that seems to be solid and see if I get different readings tonight. but i'll post those when I get home too.
Rosewill is some no name brand from newegg or something so i'm told. my current psu isn't on the newegg website anymore seeing as a I bought it a couple years go though you can find specs of it on the net. RE502

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:58 pm

update, got a friends psu to see if I could get some more stable or better readings on my voltage for my cpu. Its a thermaltake silent pure power 480watt. As said I put it back to 14x200mhz to get 2.8ghz, and put the cpu voltage at 1.4v in cpuz It read 1.36-1.39 or so fluctuating in that range between the two top numbers and 1.375v. Orthos failed after 1 min 56 seconds. now where to go/what to do?
EDIT:
here are some pictures of my bios to show you exactly what i'm working with unfortunatly it doesn't show the version but i'm sure its one of the most recent two probably 5 as stated earlier.

the vcore shot is from the oc that still wasn't stable.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:28 pm

I think that there are two versions of the fx-60 one that has as stock of 1.3v and one with 1.35v these seem totally different in that respect.
http://forums.legitreviews.com/viewtopic.php?t=4133
Newegg has two voltages listed for this processor

A64 Tweaker:

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:59 am

Loosen the ram timings! Some of those are fairly tight even if you are running a divider. Your best off to use loose timings when overclocking, you can tighten them again after you find out what the CPU can do.

RAS to RAS (Trrd) change to 4
TRAS - change to 11 or 12 (this timing gives very little performance anyway)
Trp - change to 4 (your at 2 which is the lowest you can go)
Twr - change to 4 for stability
Twtr - change to 3 for stability
Trtw - again to 3
DON'T change the Write Cas latency (Twcl) - it must be set to 1
The rest look ok! Some of these options might not be in your Bios.....but change what you can.
I suspect your RAM is the problem. Would you be prepared to try OC with only 2 sticks of ram? Just to see if the 4 sticks are the cause, it will also help to see how far you can push the CPU. You can add the sticks back later.

CPUZ does report the cpu voltage wrong, I've set 1.4v for mine but CPUZ reports between 1.37v & 1.38v and while my board does have a voltage "droop" under load (all boards do), CPUZ reports it wrong when Idle too.

:edit:
Can you post an few more bios screenshots? just the available options for memory timings and also of the voltage settings again, but try get all the options in the photo, but don't select anything in the bios like you did in the first two screenshots!

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:59 am

do I change those in the a64 tweaker? or in the bios? and screen shots I'll take some more in a bit but my bios doesn't show any settings without clicking on it because its all set at default at the moment so it just says default.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:43 pm

dgood wrote:do I change those in the a64 tweaker? or in the bios? and screen shots I'll take some more in a bit but my bios doesn't show any settings without clicking on it because its all set at default at the moment so it just says default.

Change in the bios!

Gamble · Post by **Gamble** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:23 pm

The memory is at 2.56v? Is that what I'm seeing? Should he step that down? Or is it for all four sticks........I haven't built my computer so I don't know how to actually overclock yet....

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:33 pm

memory is rated to 2.9 technically. so its fine. I have a question for ken how to change the last three values in my bios? I have all the others changed but the twr, twtr, and the trtw. cant find places in my bios to change them. and whatever other ones I didn't succeed to change.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:41 pm

so I changed all the timings I could so far and then I booted up at 14x200 1.4v orthos failed right away, changed it to 1.425v and then did it again orthos ran for 4.5 min and then stopped. getting there I guess but i'm wondering if I should just lower my memory divider and then try to oc via fsb now or what now lol.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:53 pm

dgood wrote:so I changed all the timings I could so far and then I booted up at 14x200 1.4v orthos failed right away, changed it to 1.425v and then did it again orthos ran for 4.5 min and then stopped. getting there I guess but i'm wondering if I should just lower my memory divider and then try to oc via fsb now or what now lol.

Remove 2 sticks of ram and only use 2 sticks with a divider! I guarantee you, you will get this thing sorted quicker!
Find out what the cpu can do b4 messing around with 4 sticks of ram! It will only take you ~15mins or so to find out.......

I'll be staying up till very late 2night (:drinkers:)so we can get this sorted one way or another!!!!!!!

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:10 pm

well I got my ram sticks out now i'm running 1gig 2x512 same clocks as before with the 4 sticks but only two so let us begin btw ken you have a pm
EDIT: I did get a pifast calculation off after orthos failed because I knew it'd be enough to get me into top 5 on hwbot