Liquid Cooling VS Cooler Master

[bandieramonte]

I just bought the following case:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GX47R8
it says it includes liquid cooling system but by that time I didn't realize that, so I also bought this coolant for the CPU:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PYH8S8

So, since I think I can't use a liquid cooling solution while at the same time use this cooler master product, I will now have to choose one of both.

I'm planning to overclock my Q6600 to 3.6 Ghz or more. I don't know which of these cooling solutions suits me the best. I've read that if I use liquid cooling, a leak could destroy my system ONLY if I did not use distiled or deionized water; the validity of this statement is my only worry. Also it's my first time I build a rig so I don't know how hard is it to setup a liquid cooling system.

Finally, I don't know if the liquid cooling that comes with this case can also be applied to my two GPU's (8800 GTS G92).

Thanks a lot for every advice and help.
Bandieramonte.

[martini161]

stick with the liquid, it should already come setup in the case; all you should have to do is mount the block to the cpu. and you should be able to use it on graphics cards

[DMB2000uk]

Provided the radiator that comes with the case is a 240mm one (i.e. room for 2 120mm fans) then you should go with that.

If it is just a 120mm one, then it's hard to say which will cool better out of the watercooling and the heatsink you have bought.

Using deionised water will prevent the water from shorting, not so sure about the distilled though (not saying it won't just that I don't know). But in practice, once you are set up, leaks never happen. Here is a good guide to get set up if you do stick with the watercooling: http://forums.legitreviews.com/about8978.html.

Dan

[bandieramonte]

Thanks for the link. I will have it in case I decide to go with the liquid solution.

By the way, what did you mean when you said that the deionized water will prevent it from shortening? Do you mean that it will take longer to replace it?
Also, I've read many times that many have had the misfortune of having leaks and having their systems damaged. This worries me. I don't know if leaks of deionized or distiled water would prevent damages to the system.

[DMB2000uk]

What I meant by shorting was if the water leaks out creating a circuit across two metal points on your motherboard or similar and allowing voltage/current to flow where it shouldn't.

Deionised will prevent this.

If you set up your watercooling properly, i.e. all barbs are screwed in tight and pipes are clamped properly, you shouldn't get a leak. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in other rare cases, but could you link me to some of the places where it has happened (if you can remember the links, don't worry if you can't).

I've had a slight drip of water onto the back of my graphics card when i didnt screw in a barb properly (when Using Deionised water) and it didn't kill my card.

Dan

[Methious]

The case doesn't include a water cooling system, it has 4 knock outs with 4 grommets included so you can use water cooling with the case. I've been looking at it as a possibility for replacing my case and read several reviews on it.

[stev]

The case doesn't include a water cooling system, it has 4 knock outs with 4 grommets included so you can use water cooling with the case. I've been looking at it as a possibility for replacing my case and read several reviews on it.

That's one nice case that Cooler Master has made. Ample room inside and yes, the knock-outs are excellent for hooking up an external or rear mounted liquid cooling kit/system. You made a good choice.

[bandieramonte]

How come doesn't it include liquid cooling system? In the link I posted above, when you read amazon's description for this case, under the Technical Details tab it says:

# Includes liquid cooling system, retractable foot stand, and accessory box

So that's why I supposed it has a liquid cooling system and that's even the reason why I started this thread.

[bubba]

Here is the link to Thermaltakes site. http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chas ... 003bws.asp

I have never seen a case that included a water setup for less than $300, it has the ability to have a water setup put in though.

The GeminII is a nice cooler, big but nice. If you haven't yet you will need two 120mm fans for it. You can read more about it in the review I did a few weeks back. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/609/1/

[ibleet]

It does indeed say Liquid Cooling System in the product description. Sounds like false advertising to me. I would contact Amazon and complain to see if you get some type of restitution.

By the way, I'm also building a rig with a Q6600 (Go stepping). I am going to use Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro to cool the CPU. I will keep you updated on my progress. My goal is to get it stable at 3.2 and go from there.

[bandieramonte]

According to your thermaltake link, it says it has no liquid cooling system, correct. But then, if Amazon says that it does has a liquid cooling system, then I suppose that they included it themselves as to promote this case. But then again you are correct, for $170 I don't think I will get this case with also a liquid cooling system attached to it.
Anyways if it's false advertising I won't be losing anything at all since I only paid $170 for it and it includes some huge fans while at the same time it's SLI certified (good for me considering I will be using SLI).

And thanks ibleet, it's a nice idea to keep me informed on your progress since I will also overclock my Q6600 to 3.6 Ghz, if not, to 3.2 Ghz.

I also have bought two 120mm fans for the GeminiII cooler. I hope that it's huge size wont interfere with the building of my rig. It's so big, that the exporters from Miami who will bring this product to my country, Venezuela, thought that this was a car radiator. According to your review of the GeminiII, with the two fans it will really weight a lot and you talked there about installing a backing plate or something to reduce stress over the motherboard and over the socket LGA775. How can I do such thing? I didn't know it weighted that lot, now I'm concerned about the safety of my components....

[bubba]

Unless you plan on moving the system around alot you should be ok. It's the moving of the system and bouncing up and down that will cause an issue. If you do move it lay the case on its side, so the cooler points up, so the cooler won't move as much.

[bandieramonte]

Ok I see. One last thing now: I saw that the GeminiII's active state can lower the CPU's temps to 47 degrees celcius when at load. Is this a constantly tolerable temp for a Q6600?

[bubba]

yes, as the stock cooler is somewhere in the mid-high 40's idle.